Episodes

April 16, 2025

#32 Indecision When Indexing

In this episode Michelle admits to being an indecisive indexer. Are you an indecisive indexer, too? Links mentioned in the episode: co-working method of learning to index vignette on the indecisive indexing process Do you hav...

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April 7, 2025

#31 Indexing To-Do List: a strategy for conquering Resistance

Michelle shares 5 items from her Indexing To-Do list that helps keep her indexing when she has 20 minutes or less. Links mentioned in the episode: Episode #29: Naming—and conquering— Resistance Indexer podcast website to leav...

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Dec. 16, 2024

#30 Labeling Entries

Michelle labels some index entries to streamline her indexing and index edit processes. In this episode, she explains her labeling system—naming and explaining the nine labels she uses. Do you use labels while indexing? We'd ...

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Dec. 5, 2024

#29 Naming—and Conquering—Resistance When Indexing

Sometimes, even with deadlines looming, indexers might not feel like indexing. It can be hard to sit down at the computer and just start working. In this episode, Michelle details the times she has encountered Resistance. (Ye...

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Nov. 26, 2024

#28 My Go Bag (In Case of Emergency)

In this episode, Michelle expands on what to do "in case of emergency" by describing the contents of her Go Bag. By having a Go Bag, she's ready for travel, hardware failures, and electricity outages. If you're not ready to k...

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Sept. 27, 2024

#27 In Case of Emergency, Contact...

This is the first episode of season 3. Thank you for being a loyal listener! In today's episode, Michelle addresses the sticky situation of what to do in case of emergency. Do you have a system in place so clients of ongoing...

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March 8, 2024

#26 Rethinking Legacy Plans

In this episode, Michelle discusses the fate of bespoke indexing software in light of Scribendi.ai's announcement about CINDEX. As of April 1, Scribendi will no longer distribute or support CINDEX, but will make it available ...

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Feb. 27, 2024

#25 Enid Zafran: Indexing in the early 2000s and the transition to fu…

In this episode, Enid Zafran talks about her transition from Director of Indexing Services at BNA and the reasons behind the move to full self-employment as a freelance indexer. She also shares her experiences as chief of pub...

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Feb. 20, 2024

#24 Stephen Ullstrom: indexer and author

This episode is all about indexing and writing about indexing. Michelle talks with Stephen Ullstrom, who is not only an award-winning indexer but he's also a first-time author. He wrote an excellent step-by-step guide to inde...

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Nov. 22, 2023

#23 Index Edit Part 3: The Process

Michelle details how to create a strong partnership for the index edit as well as the steps for each person in the index edit process. Here is the link to the index edit resource list . Do you have a suggestion or comment to ...

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Nov. 14, 2023

#22 Enid Zafran - The Growth of Indexing Partners and Cindex in the 1…

This is the third installment of Michelle's conversation with Enid Zafran. She talks about how she balanced her role at the Director of Indexing Services at the Bureau of National Affairs while growing her business, Indexing ...

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Nov. 1, 2023

#21 Index Edit Part 2: Pros and Cons

In this episode, Michelle returns to the index edit to discuss the costs (literal and figurative) and benefits of having another index edit or proofread your index. In the first episode in this series, #19 Index Edits - An In...

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Oct. 24, 2023

#20 Enid Zafran: Indexing Services at the Bureau of National Affairs …

Today's episode continues the conversation between Michelle and Enid Zafran. The last episode (episode #18) left off with Enid joining BNA as the Director of Indexing Services. Now Enid will talk about what it was like to ind...

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Oct. 17, 2023

#19: Index Edits - An Introduction

In today's episode, Michelle introduces the concept of index edits. She details the types of index edits as well as her experiences in indexer-editor partnerships. Episodes referenced in this episode: #3: Year-End Business Re...

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Oct. 11, 2023

#18: Enid Zafran: Indexing in the 1970s and early 1980s

The podcast is back for Season 2! On today’s show, Michelle shares part of her conversation with Enid Zafran, an award-winning indexer with over 40 years of experience. In this installment, Enid details her experience indexi...

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July 11, 2023

#17: End of Season Q&A (Part Two)

In the last episode of Season One, Michelle answers more listener's questions on: Square as a credit card option Marketing in the U.S. How to ask to be listed on the copyright page of books Why she started this podcast Here a...

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June 20, 2023

#16: End of Season Q&A: Questions from Newish Indexers

Michelle answers a couple of questions from newish indexers. One indexer wants suggestions on breaking into indexing as a career, and another newish indexer asks about setting rates. Michelle will be back next week with answe...

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June 7, 2023

#15: The Reality Check Formula (or a follow-up to the Estimate series)

In this episode, Michelle explains how she double-checks her estimated project fees and project rates proposed by clients. She uses a simple mathematical formula to test whether she will earn her desired hourly rate for each ...

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May 23, 2023

#14: Preparing Estimates for Indexing Projects: Part Two

Michelle continues explaining how she prepares estimates for indexing projects. She details why time is the most import factor to track and consider when calculating what to charge. Do you have a suggestion or comment to sha...

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May 15, 2023

#13: Preparing Estimates for Indexing Projects: Part One

This episode is all about how to prepare estimates. Michelle describes the different things she needs to consider during the process. She also explains the importance of using pricing data from previous projects. Episode #9 ...

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May 8, 2023

#12: Stopping the Stress Cycle

In this episode, Michelle brings up the B-word: burnout. But instead of focusing on the symptoms of burnout, she concentrates on what leads to burnout: a never-ending stress cycle. She will talk about her recent experience ...

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May 3, 2023

#11: Connecting After a Virtual Conference

You went to the conference and made some connections. Now what? In this episode, Michelle offers ways to follow up with people you "met" at the virtual conference. Michelle referred to the resource list from her presentatio...

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April 25, 2023

#10: How to Prepare to Network at a Virtual Conference

Networking at virtual conferences or at webinars is different than in-person situations, and therefore it requires a different type of preparation. Michelle walks listeners through how to prepare for this type of networking, ...

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April 18, 2023

#9: Per Page, Per Entry, Per Word: Translated Into an Hourly Rate

In this episode, Michelle talks about how she translates various indexing rates into an hourly rate. And she discusses her time-tracking journey - the different methods she has used over the years to create a system that work...

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